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Wayne Lusvardi

Comment from 17th Miss Regt:

Another point arises. The current value of a building goes up and down as the market changes. As the value goes up, the reassessments would drive up the costs of taxes. The state gets used to the new amount of taxes and buys 10 widgets with the money. When the market goes down, the building value goes down and the owner gets another reassessment. The taxes decrease and the government no longer has the tax money to pay for 10 widgets. It can only buy 5 widgets. A ‘shortage’ of 5 widgets is created.

On the other hand, with Prop 13, the current value of a building goes up by 2% annually as long as the owner does not change. The state buys 3 widgets with the money. (The amount gradually increases but is fairly constant.) When the market goes down, the building value goes down and the owner gets another reassessment. The taxes decrease and the government no longer has the tax money to pay for 3 widgets. It can only buy 2 widgets. A ‘shortage’ of 1 widget is created. This may be much more easily handled than a 5 widget ‘shortage’.

The difference is that in the first case the state government spent the higher amount and expected it. When the market downturn came around, there was a huge deficit. In the second case, the government does not experience a severe shortage. This second way is the way to more stable government funding, not raising taxes through the roof!

By and large, the California legislature has lost the ability to understand this simple concept.

Wayne Lusvardi

From Anonymous:

I can't IMAGINE a stronger column about the potential DEVASTATION of split property tax roll. Elias is obviously tapping into anti-corporate, anti-business hatred and may succeed because without a counter to it such as yours it could happen - seems to make sense on paper to voters, homeowners in this climate who have been encouraged to have blind resentment and lack of understanding about Evil Corporations et al. The concrete examples in your column are EXCELLENT to see the picture of what could happen with this ill-thought-out split tax roll proposal -- especially strong for the jerks in Pasadena is how the historical preservation crap would be NON-EXISTENT. Plus your usual WLisms of puppet definitions and Pinocchio, etc., VERY ENTERTAINING and informative.

lvtfan

Just end Prop 13 -- for everyone.

Treat every landholder just as if you honestly believed them to have been created equal... a novel notion for some people, I suppose, but I think it has some fine precedents.

Land value would not decrease. Land prices might. But the only ones hurt would be land speculators, and they create nothing (except havoc for those who need homes or work or other necessities).

Ignore anything that taxes long-time owners lightly and new owners heavily -- that is what Prop 13 is: no matter how you dress it up, it is still a pig, an injustice, a travesty in a country with our founding documents and ideals.

Tax land value. Stop taxing buildings. (By the way, buildings do not appreciate; they depreciate at 1.5% per year, unless there is some shortage of building materials or the labor to produce them. They're never worth more than what it would cost to build them today, and they become obsolete as new technologies come along and as the land value rises as a result of public spending, technological advances and population increases.)

Land value is the superior tax base for any kind of spending whose effect is to maintain land value. Not one acre leaves town when you tax it. Not one square foot can be hidden. Valuing land well is not hard to do. Put the valuations online, for all to see and judge. California will be on its way to a just and vibrant economy which rewards labor and productivity -- and doesn't reward land speculation. (You can't have both.)

And when you tax land, the best sites get used more intensively. Yes, some 1940s relics will get replaced, and instead of those choice sites serving one business, they will be a venue for many, and perhaps provide some housing above. Is that a bad thing? For whom?? Our cities are not museums. When we use our choice land well, we reduce urban sprawl. We serve human needs. We allow the land markets to work.

Proposition 13 prevents land markets from working well, by favoring old owners. Lousy policy. Fix it. You're smart people, aren't you? You're people of good will toward your fellow human beings, aren't you?

Aren't you??

lvtfan

I'm intrigued with your suggestion that 99.99% of California's commercial land value is owned by small businesses.

Maybe you have been paying too much attention to California's assessed values, and confused them with reality. "Small" businesses are mostly tenants. They pay rent to landlords, which are much bigger businesses. And most of what they are paying for is LOCATION -- land value. Old buildings aren't worth much.

LAND lords grow rich in their sleep, and California's Proposition 13 makes their sleep even more enriching than that of their counterparts in other states.

Genuine small businesses struggle because of Prop 13. LAND lords love it. But LAND lords didn't create the land; they are permitted to privatize its value just as if they had some role in creating it. Neat trick!

But who is getting tricked here?

Much better would be to get rid of sales taxes and wage taxes and building taxes, and simply tax land value. The transition could be made gradually, but once it was announced, a number of good things would start to occur in California's economy.

Large landholders, particularly those most subsidized by everyone else because of their "seniority," would scream. But then they'd have to find honest work to do, and apply their brilliance to something productive, instead of simply sucking up the productivity of others. And California's public spending would be funded honestly, from value created by all Californians FOR California.

How much is good land worth? I don't know about California, but NYC has an acre which is rumored to be worth $400 million to $1.2 billion -- as a teardown. Economic rent is about 5% of land value. Accepting the lower figure -- $400 million -- and taxing that at just 1% per year (which leaves the other 4% in the pocket of the landholder) would supply $4 million to meet community needs. That would permit the elimination of a lot of people's sales and wage taxes. And the owner of that choice acre is still getting 80% of the economic rent, which he did NOTHING to create. Wouldn't he be churlish to ask for 98% for himself?

Better yet - just end property taxes

Why does the government have a right to tax our property? The government is the real pig in all of this. Like all taxes, property taxes are a cancer that eats away at the pocketbooks of ordinary citizens. Worse yet, politicians in Sacramento and elsewhere determine how the money is to be spent. Their track record speaks for itself. It's time to allow the private sector to build and maintain our roads, educate our children, provide police and fire protection, and provide all of the other services we have traditionally given to government. The private sector will do a better job for less money.

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